Magic and the Mind Featured on XETV San Diego 6 “Wake Up San Diego”

By Tom Interval

Today XETV San Diego 6 featured Magic and the Mind on its morning show, “Wake Up San Diego,” over two segments. News anchors Susana Franco and Chase Cain were fantastic hosts, reacting favorably to the material we presented.

During the first segment, from about 8:50 to 8:54 a.m., Iris gave an overview of the program before Tom performed the Magic and the Mind card trick (formally known as “Unshuffled” in magic circles). Iris closed the segment by talking about assumptions, probability, and randomness and how those things relate to magicians deceiving their audiences.

The second segment, which ran from about 9:50 to 9:52 a.m. was just enough time for Tom to perform another trick (the Vernon wand spin) and for Iris to explain a bit of the neuroscience behind it without actually revealing its secret.

You can watch our San Diego 6 interview in the embedded video below, on the Videos section of our website, or on our YouTube channel. To learn more about our upcoming children’s camp from Aug. 11–15 at UCSD Extension, please go to

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About Magic and the Mind

Magic and the Mind is an enrichment program that teaches students about psychology, neuroscience, and critical thinking as revealed through some of the techniques magicians use to fool people's minds. Designed by cognitive scientist Dr. Iris Oved and magician Tom Interval, the San Diego-based program will first be offered as children's camps in the summer and fall of 2014 through the University of California (UCSD) Extension. To learn more, please visit the Magic and the Mind website at

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